The “Truth movement” is a highly Con-Trolled CIA Operation… 90+% of Internet info Totally Con-Trolled opposition… If the following statement regarding Flat Earth is True…. “It is a psyop created to divide and concur truth seekers and the truth movement” Then they have truly shot themselves in the proverbial foot… Because they have underestimated real genuine people and now there is an influx of real people investigating and questioning EVERYTHING…. Not just following “THRUTHER” CHANNELS but doing their own digging and exposing both the TRUTH and the Con-Trolled TRUTH Deceivers.. The Truth cannot be Destroyed – it can only be hidden… and the Truth does not fear investigation… But Liars Do…


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    1. Thank you for doing this. This is what everyone in the Body of Christ is supposed to be doing regarding any major topic. Instead many would rather turn to disagreements and arguements from their own finite standpoints than to seek the Heavenly Father about the matter, which takes courage. The Holy Spirit also implied this to me as well, that the earth is spherical, but there are many things we don’t understand about it and probably never will in this lifetime. But it grieves my heart that the state of the church would rather stand in such divisiveness today. It truly says a lot.

  1. Chris, Satan comes to deceive, steal, kill, and destroy. United Nations comes to deceive, steal, kill, and destroy. Islam comes to dcive, steal, kill, and destroy. 90-95 percent of humanity comes to deceive, steal, kill, and destroy. Christopher Harris comes to deceive, steal, kill, and destroy.

  2. Heather, As a child, my name was Johnny Cash. Then later, it became Johnny. My friends called my Johnny Appleseed because I loved apples and still do. At work for Walmart, every body called me Santa Claus for I dressed up as Santa Claus and between Thanksgiving and Christmas, I handed out 100 candy canes per day. I love chocolate chip cookies nd milk and gingersnaps dipped in milk. Formal is John Ashcraft and I don’t like that name too well. So depending on what mood I am in, I will go by that name. John/Jon Richards is just fine for my middle name is Richard. You can even call me Richie Rich. I am a child at heart in a body of 60 and still sleep with stuffed animals. You can read the story of Idaho Brandon at Jardalkalatgmail.blogspot.com.
    Why did you lie by adding flat to water in Genesis 1:2 when it is not there in the Hebrew? Why did you add solid dome when it is a transparent dome in the Hebrew?

  3. I also cant see how the earth is flat. In addition to Biblical truth in scripture, I ask these questions from a simple mind when it comes to science, for science is not my gift. Why would God create all the planets, the sun and moon as round and leave the earth flat? How does that work in His perfect creation ? I try to envision a flat earth concept like a square piece of cardboard laying flat in space,
    so how does the sunlight not reach the whole world at the same time and when it sets and rises, not to mention winter here vs summer down under. Also wouldn’t the sun go underneath the square when it sets , thereby also warming the oceans from the bottom of a flat earth upwards thru heat radiation? How could glaciers exist when equal heat distribution would be a new normal? I can chat with a brother in India at 2 am his time when it’s dark on his side of the world and its afternoon here in the US? I cant comprehend the complicated math of this universe let alone barely comprehend the child like questions I ask. If I could afford a paid trip to view the earth from the first levels of space, I’m sure it would just confirm what I already know. Its round.

    1. Joshua -Hi -I am cutting and pasting from a link above in another section -so you can get a visual of what is taking place –the bottom one for that look -4 minutes –Hi great question -this is what the Wikipedia says-In biblical cosmology, the firmament is the structure above the atmosphere of Earth, conceived as a vast solid dome.[1] According to the Genesis creation narrative, God created the firmament to separate the “waters above” the earth from the “waters below” the earth.—Outer space is a lie –the stars are fixed in the upper firmament and its this that moves – looks like this https://www.facebook.com/GeocentricEccentric/photos/pcb.186718072031591/186717032031695/?type=3&theater https://www.facebook.com/GeocentricEccentric/photos/pcb.186718072031591/186717272031671/?type=3&theater the sun and moon also move in a circular fashion like the hands of a clock —but there is no galaxies there is no outer space –NASA openly and often admits they cannot get out of lower earth orbit (inside the dome) here is NASA saying that -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vOXj3aRueY –we are a dome with actual waters above and waters below JUST LIKE THE BIBLE SAYS —HERE IS A VIDEO YOU CAN GET A real LOOK AT WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE start at 4 minute mark and it shows how it moves and the stars fixed (its only a 5 minute video) but its the book of Enoch but that is how it works

      –here at the 4 minute mark https://www.facebook.com/MessengerOfTheMostHigh/videos/1243650649150091/

  4. What this all comes down to is lack of faith. Far too many put their trust in intellectualism of everything in their minds, including how they interpret scripture, just like with what the Pharisees got caught up with. We need to be vigilant and on guard with regards to what spirits we are listening to and believing. The point is, the deeper you get into your relationship with Jesus, the more you actually understand how much you CANNOT be sure about ANYTHING, for you know NOTHING apart from the gospel of Christ, and how much we need Jesus to help us understand this reality. Try to figure out something in its entirety without the Revelation of the Holy Spirit, testimony of Jesus, and that will be your error. From my experience, everything the Holy Spirit reveals is never 100% complete, because understanding anything in its entirety simply cannot be fathomed by the mind. Our God is too vast, but many would like to box Him inside their comfortable zone. I am not going to argue a flat or round earth, but once again, I am going to reveal what the Holy Spirit has shown me, and that is YES, galaxies and universes outside of our own realm DO EXIST. He has also shown me that our GOD is STILL CREATING, AND HE NEVER STOPS CREATING. Whether we can fathom this or not is OUR issue with FAITH, not God’s issue. I ask many flat-earthers to question: do you truly know your God? Do you have faith in a God who is INFINITELY VAST, ALL POWERFUL, OMNISCIENT, WHO IS OUTSIDE OF OUR MINDS, EVEN OUR WORLD, TIME, AND SPACE?? That there is nothing created that exists outside of Him? I’ve also had dreams that showed a round earth. This doesn’t mean it’s a scheme from NASA. Whether we can’t comprehend how earth works, how gravity works, how the heavenlies are arranged, or anything of that sort, is NOT THE POINT. THAT IS THE GLORY OF GOD. DON’T TOUCH IT. The point is how much do you truly KNOW God? Where is your faith? Shalom.

    Jer 33:3
    “Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.”

  5. If we seek the full 100% TRUTH from the LORD, He will give us the truth, even when it goes against “the natural mind”. The TRUTH is this: The earth is what would be best described as ROUND. I was shown the earth from the vantage point of space by the LORD Jesus. If we believe any lie . . . It opens the door to other lies and avoidance of the truth, which is actually avoidance of Jesus, for He is the way, the truth and the life.
    It requires diligence and faith to seek the full 100% truth that FEW actually choose to do . . . It’s “the narrow path” . . And very difficult.

      1. I’m responsible before the LORD to share what He shows Me, when I’m prompted to share. I won’t debate what I was shown in the above mentioned dream . . . Besides, it’s in a list described in the Bible that I really don’t want to be on. Here’s the warning about debating . . .

        10-4-15 – WHEN CHRISTIANS DEBATE ONE ANOTHER | believeacts2’s Blog

        1. Dear Linda, speaking the truth in love is not the debate of those given over to a reprobate mind (Romans 1:28-32), be cautious of that. If you are correcting a false teaching and need to share the Scripture and your interpretation and engage in a discussion is this the debate of a reprobate mind? I don’t think so. There is a point where sharing information and interpretation can become an unfruitful debate, but I don’t believe that is the case here. I read your Dream of going before God’s Throne of 2015 and you saw the earth as being round (though it wasn’t explicitly described in the vision). But let me ask you did you know for certain it was a SPHERE that was rotating? Because according to God’s word the earth is a circle (round) but is flat, with the firmament above. I’m just asking whether what you saw is actually in contradiction with the Biblical flat earth model?

    1. Dear BelieveActs2, the Lord describes the earth as a circle and that he spreads out the heavens like a tent (Isaiah 40:22), but is flat, immovable and has a foundation, with the firmament above dividing the waters from below from above, described as hard as a cast metal mirror (Job 37:18). The sun and moon are lights and the stars are set in the firmament. God Himself said He made the sun and moon stand still to prolong the day, when according to the globe model the Lord would have had to make the earth stop as we are meant to be rotating: Joshua 10:13 “So the sun stood still, And the moon stopped, Till the people had revenge Upon their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day.”
      So I believe the earth is indeed round, but is flat. The Lord has not shown it to me yet, but as I posted above, He did give me a dream showing me the earth is not spinning and rotating but is perfectly still.

      1. Chris, Heather will not answer me back on this. Is a ball flat ? Is a golfball flat ? Is a baseball flat ? Is a cannonball flat Is a soccerball flat ?
        You said the earth is flat so therefore then the other balls are flat by your own reasoning so that makes yu a liar. If you answer is that the balls are round like a snow globe, then you tell th truth.
        Question, can you move a square wheel? If you can then you are mightier than you are. Can you move a square soccer square from one goal to the other? Can you throw a square base square and hit it with a triangle bat.

        1. Jon Richards -why was your name John Ashcraft yesterday ?? -odd —never the less -The point of the scripture is that a servant of The Lord must never quarrel — which we will not do -furthermore the definition of a circle coming from wikipedia is just like the Lord has used it in hIS word –describing a flat plane in the shape of a circle —not a ball or a sphere -WIKIPEDIA __CIRCLE –A circle is a simple closed shape. It is the set of all points in a **plane** that are at a given distance from a given point, the centre; equivalently it is the curve traced out by a point that moves so that its distance from a given point is constant. The distance between any of the points and the centre is called the radius. This article is about circles in Euclidean geometry, and, in particular, the Euclidean plane, except where otherwise noted.
          *******it says its in a PLANE **** that means its flat -so the Lord is 100% correct with grammer when he says circle (not ball)
          A circle is a simple closed curve that divides the plane into two regions: an interior and an exterior. In everyday use, the term “circle” may be used interchangeably to refer to either the boundary of the figure, or to the whole figure including its interior; in strict technical usage, the circle is only the boundary and the whole figure is called a disc. —–and Jeff -I love dutchsense -he is the best –blessings

          1. You did not answer my question. Question, can you move a square wheel? If you can then you are mightier than you are. Can you move a square soccer square from one goal to the other? Can you throw a square base square and hit it with a triangle bat.

            Why did you lie by adding flat to water in Genesis 1:2 when it is not there in the Hebrew? Why did you add solid dome when it is a transparent dome in the Hebrew?

  6. Jeff, why are you trusting the judgment of an occultist who is practising divination and sorcery (Cliff High)? The earth is flat, research it properly and pray to God about it brother.

    1. Christopher, I want to ask you a serious question … would you agree that everything in the Bible is true but not everything is true is in the Bible? And one more, would you say that your personal interpretation of every verse in the Bible is perfect and without fault?

      1. Dear Jeff, to your first question: everything in the Bible is true, and not everything that is true is written about in the Bible. Not all of God’s truth is in the Bible, for there is more wisdom the Lord has not told us about in the Scripture, Colossians 2:2-3 “that their hearts may be encouraged, being knit together in love, and attaining to all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the knowledge of the mystery of God, both of the Father and of Christ,in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.”

        All treasures of wisdom and knowledge are within God. I take His Word as my sure foundation and if something contradicts His Word, I reject it.

        Second question: No my personal interpretation of every verse is not perfect or without fault, however, the Lord has given me understanding on several topics as led by the Holy Spirit and dreams which is the truth! I don’t have certain knowledge on every topic in the Bible, but the Lord has led me to certain areas to speak upon with conviction. Some of these are false teachings He led me to speak against and the Lord led me to speak on the topic of the flat earth. He led me into this for a long time looking into and researching not only the Scripture but the evidence of the earth being flat and the massive deception by NASA and the governments of the earth. The Lord gave me a dream showing me He did not create the earth to be spinning around constantly, but perfectly still and motionless.

        I believe in what the Word says and that the Scripture clearly shows the earth is flat and immovable with the firmament above with the sun, moon and stars set in the firmament as we are told. The Lord led me to this and led me to make a video on this that I shared on my channel. This is an important topic because when the fallen angels arrive in the guise of aliens, people may be deceived in believing they are really aliens from another planet when they are truly demons. Furthermore the governments of the world have been in collusion to keep the truth of God from the people, that He is from heaven above and we are from beneath. On a globe earth there is no true up and down as it’s relative to your position. Many physical observations prove there is no curvature of the earth.

        I trust what God says in His word and not what science tells us. If what science says contradicts with what God says, then I call science and the world liars, because God does not lie. Romans 3:4 “Certainly not! Indeed, let God be true but every man a liar…”

  7. Its flat –but I am not gonna comment anymore !! Lol— be blessed beloved!! But it IS flat

      1. Oh hello and holy hugs dear friend Jeff B – it was the other fellow -he was really getting upset and i wish to obey the Lord and not argue with any one — Titus 3:9
        but shun foolish questionings, genealogies, strife, and disputes about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.—The other gentleman was getting very upset -I dont wish for any harm -But Jeff indeeed the bible is true and its actually very easy to discover that it is flat indeed -I can send you a lot of information if you sincerly wish to look into it -I t seemed to me that that was not the desire -from the content posted -tho -people you are using are (I agree with christopher ) occultist or worldly at best –It actually and truly is flat and the bible is very super clear and so is the book of Enoch -Its amazing when you “get IT’ -like I said if you wish to look further You have my Email !! be blessed today Family of Jesus Christ
        Heather Cummings-littledove

        1. Ok Heather, I want to very calmly share this with you.
          The reasons why I don’t believe Flat Earth is because I’ve seen the curve of the earth. It is visible from any beach as we watch ships sailing beyond the horizon. They go down slowly over the horizon. To me, that proves it.

          Also, these scriptures tell us the earth is round.

          He has inscribed a circle on the surface of the waters at the boundary of light and darkness. (Job 26:10)

          When He established the heavens, I was there, when He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep,

          (Proverbs 8:27)

          It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, who stretches out the heavens like a curtain and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in. (Isaiah 40:22)

          Beyond that, there are zillion photos of the earth from outer space showing it is round.

          Blessings Love and Peace to you always
          Jeff Byerly

          1. I have all the explanations for all of these issues !! every single one —-pretty much in one 30 minute video –I have many really good ones -but odd tv here has an excellent research skills and its all explained -very simply –and to be honest -the proof for flat earth is OVERWHELMING -there is actually NO DENYing it and the ball spinning earth has no science behind it –If you just watch and look at the information -I have already put forward -but thats ok –just watch this one and any after –it answered every question https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8udts8Un4m4&t=1613s&index=2&list=PLm6Vq0bTTCDj8fuDVfqcytiuxbVj_Lyq4

            1. here is flat earth in 5 minutes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDKc6X8TXNE&index=17&list=PLm6Vq0bTTCDj8fuDVfqcytiuxbVj_Lyq4

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1DQSBI42Eg&t=1352s this is actually a really good one -talks all about -the sun being close -and the vanishing point of boats and why we dont fall off the edge –proof after proof and its all science and common sense -this is a really good one to “have proof scientifically ” be blessed and I appreciate all your work Jeff -Thank You

            2. Heather, you have been: Eph_4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
              Like the CIA PSYOP did with the flat earth. So in essence Satan come to deceive, steal, kill, and destroy and you have been tossed to and fro by His craftiness and cunningness with all the lies that Christian preachers do and the lies of the USA government.

          2. Dear Jeff, when the ship goes over the horizon and appears to go over the curve, this is not what is really happening. This is a perspective issue and there are plenty of videos online that show when you use a high powered camera the ship comes back into view completely and it never went over the curve. This was mentioned by Bill Nye as proof of the globe but it is not proof.

            The earth is in the shape of a circle but is flat, with the dome firmament over it enclosing it, with heaven above. Have a look at the Biblical flat earth model online and you will see. The sun and moon are lights (as said in Genesis 1) and with the stars are set in the firmament and rotate around like a clock. The Lord calls the earth’s shape a circle, not a ball or a sphere. When it says in Isaiah 40:22 he stretches out the heavens like a curtain and spreads them out like a tent this is describing the firmament He made over the earth. The firmament is made of a hard substance, Job 37:18 “With Him, have you spread out the skies, Strong as a cast metal mirror?” The earth is repeatedly described by God as being immovable and with a firm foundation. This is inconsistent with the scientific model of 24 hour earthly rotation (like your GIF on the bottom right of your website), and rotating around the sun and travelling through the galaxy, that’s a LOT of movement when God said the earth is IMMOVABLE.

            Also as I mentioned before in the other post Joshua 10:13 says the Lord prolonged the day by stopping the sun, but according to the globe model the Lord would need to stop the earth from rotating to prolong the day, therefore another clear contradiction with God’s word.

            Also there are no real pictures from space. If you look up NASA photos of earth from space you can see from the various years the continents change in size, the colours change and they are admitted CGI composites (Photoshop). NASA is basically space hollywood. A clear proof is that objects/landmarks are visible from a distance where they should be obscured by the supposed curve of the earth. There is no curve even very high up when a proper camera is used without a fish eye lens. I have a panorama of the top of Mount Everest in my room and it is completely FLAT! Anyway brother I bring this to your attention because this is worthy of further research and prayer seeking the Lord. God bless.

        2. Titus 3:9
          but shun foolish questionings, genealogies, strife, and disputes about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

          Controversies, genealogies, quarrels and fights about the Torah. See Tit_1:14 above; 1Ti_1:3-4 1Ti_6:4; 2Ti_2:14-16 2Ti_2:23. A congregation leader cannot tolerate divisiveness in a group with the task of “doing good deeds” (Tit_3:8) by the power of the Ruach HaKodesh (Tit_3:6); the unity for which the Messiah prayed (Joh_17:21) is essential if the group is serious and dedicated.

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